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Tuesday, October 9, 2012
Before Othello: Discussion Prep (Per 7)
What does this work contribute to our understanding of how Europeans viewed African? What is the most difficult part of reading "Before Othello?" How are you working through the hardest sections?
20 comments:
Natalia Lopez
said...
The most difficult part about reading " Before Othello " part V is the vocabulary. I'm working through the section by looking up the definitions.
This work contributes to our understanding of how Europeans viewed Africans because the article is about an African man in Rome and what they thought about him.
I really don't understand this, I don't understand anything that's happening, I don't understand this language. The hardest part is trying to decipher what they are trying to say, also that I have to look up words like every other sentence!
I don't know how the Europeans viewed the Africans, I seriously do not understand this story.
This contributes to our understanding of how Europeans viewed Africans because in my section particularly (2) some of it tells about how differently Africans were treated and about how much they were looked down upon by the Europeans. The most difficult part about reading Before Othello is understanding how and what the context is discussing. It is clear but with the advanced vocabulary and the length of some of the sentences, it is somewhat hard to decipher the important points of the passage. I am picking out the most "difficult to comprehend" parts of the blog and breaking them up into sentence fragments to see if I can find similes of the words to put them in a more understandable statement.
In my section, section 6, I only really understood the second half of it. It says that Europeans viewed Africans as varying degrees of barbaric. They thought that the lighter the skin of the Africans, the better and more civilized they were. The Europeans also thought that the Africans had no real religion; that they worshiped idols and fake gods.
I think that the most difficult part of reading "Before Othello" is that it is hard to concentrate and follow along with. Meaning, it is interesting but there are so many words that it is difficult to keep them all separated and read them as comprehensible sentences. I'm trying to work through it by reading slowly and repeatedly, looking up the words I don't understand.
To read the piece "Before Othello" is difficult in itself. my section to decipher was part vii. it was mostly difficult not because of the words(though there were difficult ones) but because i was trying to read from that section not understanding what the previous section was talking about. maybe the piece wasn't difficult,maybe its deciphering a piece that you have no introduction to......im looking forward to reading and understanding the entire "Before Othello"
"Before Othello" helps us in our understanding of how Europeans viewed African because the reading really goes in detail how the Europeans thought of Africans. In Section 7 and other sections, the authors gives multiple examples on how Europeans thought of Africans. Another factor is they talk about how the Europeans from the middle-end of sixteenth century to beginning seventeenth century viewed the Africans. It kind of gives a verses view.
The most difficult part of reading "Before Othello" for everyone and myself is probably the vocabulary and how the sentences are structured.
To be honest, I'm just trying to get through sections by deciphering & summarizing the best I can. And truly, constantly looking in the dictionary.
I only understand part of my section which is 1. It was just telling me about what Europeans who explored Africa really thought about it, like how they looked. But they mostly focus on the dark skin tone. And it tells me that the Europeans don't really know anything about them other then what they read, which is like the single story all over again but the most difficult part about the reading is the vocabulary.
The vocabulary is very difficult. The best way that its helping me is by looking up the various wordds that i dont undertsand. The sentences are constructed in many was that is hard to decipher. The article gives examples of how the Europeans thought, of Africans but however its written in like a differnt language skeem to me. I look foward to reading all parts of "Before Othello " and understanding the full consept.
This contributes to our understanding on how Europeans viewed Africa because so far in my section (Section two) I read that Europeans viewed the Africans as 'pagans and idolatours, without profession any religion, or other knowledge of God.' So far throughout all the presentations we've done we know that Africa had culture, religion, and government.
It's hard understanding some of the words and sometimes I feel as though I have to look up ten different words from one line. I'm working through it by deciphering, breaking it down slowly, reading the same sentence maybe three times. I would rather decipher with my group or even the entire class like we did last time to have a better understanding of "Before Othello."
By reading my section on "Before Othello," I believe that the Europeans viewed Africans a certain way. They judged them mainly on their skin color and made many assumptions.
The difficult part of reading "Before Othello" for me was to understand some of the words. A lot of the words and sentence structures were confusing to me. I am trying to work through the hard sections by talking to other people in my group and deciphering the words that are unknown to me.
The most difficult thing about Before Othello has to be the vocabulary words because if you do not know the words it makes it harder to decipher the sentences. I think this contributes to our understanding on how Europeans viewed Africa because so far in my section because this passage tells us exactly how the Europeans viewed Africans. This passage is easier to decipher in groups because its so large. -Kimberly Jeffreys 7th period
This work contributes to our knowledge of what we already know of how the Europeans describe Africans as being uncivilized and non cultural. From what I've read so far from "before Othello" it goes in a deeper meaning of how Europeans view Africans. The most difficult part of reading this article is that its a hard piece to decipher especially with 29 more pages to go over. It is also hard to go over all the definitions of the words you don't know,and no matter how many times you read certain sentences its hard to understand. Im looking for clues and ideas from other sentences to work through this piece.
The European believed that the Africans got their skin color from the sun and the climate of the land. The Europeans also believed that the climate explained many of the Africans charecteristics like thief curly hair and white teeth. The Europeans judged the Africans and made rude comments about them. One explorer said that the people who lived in Africa were monstrous, savage and rude.
The hardest part of reading this piece for me was the difficult words. I'm working through the difficultly by looking for the definitions of the words that I do not understand.
Unlike "Is He Not In Congo-land," I found "Before Othello" to be much simpler to read and understand. I would compare reading "Before Othello" to a Jodi Picoult book. The language used is the language many of use now, it is simply a matter of vocabulary. These authors know quite a few "big" words than I know.Atlas, however, that is why there are dictionaries. Looking up the challenging words that I swore were like being in a Doctor's office, really brought the whole piece back to home.
My section of "Before Othello" practically answered the question "What does this work contribute to our understanding of how Europeans viewed Africans?" According to section 3 after the explorers came back from exploring Africa, they brought back with them slaves and the European people were in total shock. First they have never seen anyone that looked so different from anything they have ever seen, but the Africans contradicted their culture. During the Elizabethan era, white was in. As a matter of fact the whiter you were the higher class you were. This thinking was adapted for the Africans. It was said that the lighter the African the more "civilized." As if the public weren't shock enough the media (newspapers and the theater) decided to exploit the dark Africans. Using the description of explorers about savage, uncivilized , heathen Africans; playwrights began making plays about these African and how they "were". They'd dress in black garments or paint their skin dark and then Chanel of the Africans. In some plays Africans were the horses that carried Royals' chariots.These plays were very popular and back then everyone read the paper, so if all the public is exposed to such inhumane people, especially in the theater, one can only conclude that "oh, those Africans are not humans but a different beast in it self." Even now today, many of the public believe everything they see in the media, no questions asked. It's easy now to see why these Europeans thought as they did. It was practically forced upon them.
I really like how I can see the range of difficulty that people are having with Before Othello. Vera, truly interesting thought! The media really does drive thought and perception of others. From the Elizabethean era, it paints Blacks with a troubling "Otherness." Ladies, I think you'll find glimmers of this argument in all sections of the piece.
Before Othello is more difficult to read than The Congo Land piece. I think we had a general idea of what it was about and brought our ideas together and that made it a lot easier. This time we'rereading a difficult piece without much background information or solid ideas on what it may be about.
Before Othello has difficult words in it,but I believe it's easier to read than Congo Land. Congo Land was a mixture of different excerpts, while Before Othello seems to be a whole story, therefore easier for me to read. I still think the process of picking out difficult words and summarizing the essay in parts is a good strategy. So far, from what I can gather from the literary work, is that whites during the "age of interaction" treated blacks as aliens. Whites were ignorant to the Africans culture and background and therefore knew nothing about them.
before othello is more difficult to decipher to me then The Congo Land reading. I think before othello is more difficult maybe because of how long the reading is & the difficult vocabulary words. I understand finding the definitions to the words may help me better, but it feels like i still have no idea on whats actually going on in the piece. My section to decipher was part 5 & i kinda got confused reading with not understanding what most of the piece was actually stating or saying. I think if i was to keep going over it, i will eventually understand the piece as i did with the congo land piece.
The story Before Othello is extremely difficult but, not impossible. I normally skim through the a passage to get the general idea but with this piece of literature I am unable to do so. There are a lot of hard words that I didn't even know existed. Although I am trying my best to push through this. And I agree with everyone, the "Is he not in Congoland" piece was rather easier and it was easy to form ideas and put them together. So far I have no clue what's going on. I guess I gotta read it again. (sigh) I'm starting to get kind of flustered.
Without a doubt "Before Othello" is one of the most difficult articles I've ever had to read. I attempted to take different techniques we used in class such as rereading the text and defining unfamiliar words. Yet, still I find myself confused. This article differs from "Congland" because the reading techniques we went over helped me tremendously unlike in this article.
20 comments:
The most difficult part about reading " Before Othello " part V is the vocabulary. I'm working through the section by looking up the definitions.
This work contributes to our understanding of how Europeans viewed Africans because the article is about an African man in Rome and what they thought about him.
-Natalia Lopez
I really don't understand this, I don't understand anything that's happening, I don't understand this language. The hardest part is trying to decipher what they are trying to say, also that I have to look up words like every other sentence!
I don't know how the Europeans viewed the Africans, I seriously do not understand this story.
-Kimberly Hernandez
This contributes to our understanding of how Europeans viewed Africans because in my section particularly (2) some of it tells about how differently Africans were treated and about how much they were looked down upon by the Europeans. The most difficult part about reading Before Othello is understanding how and what the context is discussing. It is clear but with the advanced vocabulary and the length of some of the sentences, it is somewhat hard to decipher the important points of the passage. I am picking out the most "difficult to comprehend" parts of the blog and breaking them up into sentence fragments to see if I can find similes of the words to put them in a more understandable statement.
In my section, section 6, I only really understood the second half of it. It says that Europeans viewed Africans as varying degrees of barbaric. They thought that the lighter the skin of the Africans, the better and more civilized they were. The Europeans also thought that the Africans had no real religion; that they worshiped idols and fake gods.
I think that the most difficult part of reading "Before Othello" is that it is hard to concentrate and follow along with. Meaning, it is interesting but there are so many words that it is difficult to keep them all separated and read them as comprehensible sentences. I'm trying to work through it by reading slowly and repeatedly, looking up the words I don't understand.
To read the piece "Before Othello" is difficult in itself. my section to decipher was part vii. it was mostly difficult not because of the words(though there were difficult ones) but because i was trying to read from that section not understanding what the previous section was talking about. maybe the piece wasn't difficult,maybe its deciphering a piece that you have no introduction to......im looking forward to reading and understanding the entire "Before Othello"
"Before Othello" helps us in our understanding of how Europeans viewed African because the reading really goes in detail how the Europeans thought of Africans. In Section 7 and other sections, the authors gives multiple examples on how Europeans thought of Africans. Another factor is they talk about how the Europeans from the middle-end of sixteenth century to beginning seventeenth century viewed the Africans. It kind of gives a verses view.
The most difficult part of reading "Before Othello" for everyone and myself is probably the vocabulary and how the sentences are structured.
To be honest, I'm just trying to get through sections by deciphering & summarizing the best I can. And truly, constantly looking in the dictionary.
I only understand part of my section which is 1. It was just telling me about what Europeans who explored Africa really thought about it, like how they looked. But they mostly focus on the dark skin tone. And it tells me that the Europeans don't really know anything about them other then what they read, which is like the single story all over again
but the most difficult part about the reading is the vocabulary.
Destinee Brooks...
The vocabulary is very difficult. The best way that its helping me is by looking up the various wordds that i dont undertsand. The sentences are constructed in many was that is hard to decipher. The article gives examples of how the Europeans thought, of Africans but however its written in like a differnt language skeem to me. I look foward to reading all parts of "Before Othello " and understanding the full consept.
This contributes to our understanding on how Europeans viewed Africa because so far in my section (Section two) I read that Europeans viewed the Africans as 'pagans and idolatours, without profession any religion, or other knowledge of God.' So far throughout all the presentations we've done we know that Africa had culture, religion, and government.
It's hard understanding some of the words and sometimes I feel as though I have to look up ten different words from one line. I'm working through it by deciphering, breaking it down slowly, reading the same sentence maybe three times. I would rather decipher with my group or even the entire class like we did last time to have a better understanding of "Before Othello."
*Sarah Eldakakk
By reading my section on "Before Othello," I believe that the Europeans viewed Africans a certain way. They judged them mainly on their skin color and made many assumptions.
The difficult part of reading "Before Othello" for me was to understand some of the words. A lot of the words and sentence structures were confusing to me. I am trying to work through the hard sections by talking to other people in my group and deciphering the words that are unknown to me.
The most difficult thing about Before Othello has to be the vocabulary words because if you do not know the words it makes it harder to decipher the sentences. I think this contributes to our understanding on how Europeans viewed Africa because so far in my section because this passage tells us exactly how the Europeans viewed Africans. This passage is easier to decipher in groups because its so large.
-Kimberly Jeffreys 7th period
This work contributes to our knowledge of what we already know of how the Europeans describe Africans as being uncivilized and non cultural. From what I've read so far from "before Othello" it goes in a deeper meaning of how Europeans view Africans. The most difficult part of reading this article is that its a hard piece to decipher especially with 29 more pages to go over. It is also hard to go over all the definitions of the words you don't know,and no matter how many times you read certain sentences its hard to understand. Im looking for clues and ideas from other sentences to work through this piece.
The European believed that the Africans got their skin color from the sun and the climate of the land. The Europeans also believed that the climate explained many of the Africans charecteristics like thief curly hair and white teeth. The Europeans judged the Africans and made rude comments about them. One explorer said that the people who lived in Africa were monstrous, savage and rude.
The hardest part of reading this piece for me was the difficult words. I'm working through the difficultly by looking for the definitions of the words that I do not understand.
Tamia Robinson
Period 7,
Unlike "Is He Not In Congo-land," I found "Before Othello" to be much simpler to read and understand. I would compare reading "Before Othello" to a Jodi Picoult book. The language used is the language many of use now, it is simply a matter of vocabulary. These authors know quite a few "big" words than I know.Atlas, however, that is why there are dictionaries. Looking up the challenging words that I swore were like being in a Doctor's office, really brought the whole piece back to home.
My section of "Before Othello" practically answered the question "What does this work contribute to our understanding of how Europeans viewed Africans?" According to section 3 after the explorers came back from exploring Africa, they brought back with them slaves and the European people were in total shock. First they have never seen anyone that looked so different from anything they have ever seen, but the Africans contradicted their culture. During the Elizabethan era, white was in. As a matter of fact the whiter you were the higher class you were. This thinking was adapted for the Africans. It was said that the lighter the African the more "civilized." As if the public weren't shock enough the media (newspapers and the theater) decided to exploit the dark Africans. Using the description of explorers about savage, uncivilized , heathen Africans; playwrights began making plays about these African and how they "were". They'd dress in black garments or paint their skin dark and then Chanel of the Africans. In some plays Africans were the horses that carried Royals' chariots.These plays were very popular and back then everyone read the paper, so if all the public is exposed to such inhumane people, especially in the theater, one can only conclude that "oh, those Africans are not humans but a different beast in it self." Even now today, many of the public believe everything they see in the media, no questions asked. It's easy now to see why these Europeans thought as they did. It was practically forced upon them.
I really like how I can see the range of difficulty that people are having with Before Othello. Vera, truly interesting thought! The media really does drive thought and perception of others. From the Elizabethean era, it paints Blacks with a troubling "Otherness." Ladies, I think you'll find glimmers of this argument in all sections of the piece.
Before Othello is more difficult to read than The Congo Land piece. I think we had a general idea of what it was about and brought our ideas together and that made it a lot easier. This time we'rereading a difficult piece without much background information or solid ideas on what it may be about.
Before Othello has difficult words in it,but I believe it's easier to read than Congo Land. Congo Land was a mixture of different excerpts, while Before Othello seems to be a whole story, therefore easier for me to read. I still think the process of picking out difficult words and summarizing the essay in parts is a good strategy. So far, from what I can gather from the literary work, is that whites during the "age of interaction" treated blacks as aliens. Whites were ignorant to the Africans culture and background and therefore knew nothing about them.
Aaliyah Bullock..pd 7
before othello is more difficult to decipher to me then The Congo Land reading. I think before othello is more difficult maybe because of how long the reading is & the difficult vocabulary words. I understand finding the definitions to the words may help me better, but it feels like i still have no idea on whats actually going on in the piece. My section to decipher was part 5 & i kinda got confused reading with not understanding what most of the piece was actually stating or saying. I think if i was to keep going over it, i will eventually understand the piece as i did with the congo land piece.
The story Before Othello is extremely difficult but, not impossible. I normally skim through the a passage to get the general idea but with this piece of literature I am unable to do so. There are a lot of hard words that I didn't even know existed. Although I am trying my best to push through this. And I agree with everyone, the "Is he not in Congoland" piece was rather easier and it was easy to form ideas and put them together. So far I have no clue what's going on. I guess I gotta read it again. (sigh) I'm starting to get kind of flustered.
Without a doubt "Before Othello" is one of the most difficult articles I've ever had to read. I attempted to take different techniques we used in class such as rereading the text and defining unfamiliar words. Yet, still I find myself confused. This article differs from "Congland" because the reading techniques we went over helped me tremendously unlike in this article.
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